Is this what you would call " a genocide"?

March 10th, 2010 | by admin |

.I noticed a very strange thing; pro- palestinians are very noisy about "genocide" and "atrocities and war crimes", but only until they are asked the concrete question: how many palestinian arabs are victims of this "genocide" and these "atrocities and war crimes". After that pro- palestinians suddenly disappear , or start to insult the asker, or run for help to the moderators and report the question.
Well, let´s count together.
In the War of Independence of 1948,palestinian arabs obeyed the instructions of the arab leaders and got out so that the arab armies could get in. So, there were practically no losses among the palestinian arabs.
The statistics below is taken from the Palestinian National Bureau of Statistics, it is situated in Ramallah and is the official organ of the Palestinian Authority. All the attempts to try to deny the statistics calling it “ a Zionist propaganda” , as so many of arabs so often do whenever the statistical data do not support their lies, will not be neither answered, nor even taken seriously.
So, according to this statistics :
In the First Intifada , an estimated 1,300 Palestinians were killed.
In the Intifada of AlAqsa, another 5500.
In the strike on Gaza in December, another 1200.
In various minor but constant clashes since 1948…Nobody knows the exact number. So, just add another 10000.
All in all, not more than 18000 palestinian arabs were killed in 60 years.
300 a year.
And this is “ a Genocide”????
Pathetic.

UN Genocide Article 2, of the Geneva´s Convention defines genocide as: "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

Now, what i would like someone to explain to me is how the "poor genocided palestinians" whom these cruel Israelis, according to s many of you , shot like rabbits "in groups and individually", and on whom they, according to you", inflicted serious bodily harm", managed to grow in number 15 times in just 60 years, from hardly 200 thousands in 1948 to almost 3 millions in 2008?
Any explanation?
And I don´t feel like seeing my qestions deleted .
Inform your colleagues about this.

No act by Israel will have the slightest effect of moving peace forward.

People who try to force a peace on the region act in ignorance of one thing: there is nothing Israel can do to bring about peace. No act by Israel will have the slightest effect of moving peace forward.

All the initiative belongs to the Muslims who want to destroy Israel and commit genocide on its Jewish population. Israel withdrawals from Lebanon and Gaza just brought more attacks on Israel. When Israel has proposed negotiations the Arabs rejected them. Only when Sadat (and later Hussein) took the initiative to make peace was peace made, then Sadat was murdered for it.

All the pleadings of Israelis and Americans could not bring Arafat to agree to peace, or live up to any agreement he made. Thus the world will have to wait until the Muslims decide to make peace for another such peace to be made. It will wait a long time.

When the Palestinian Arabs are sick of being killed when they make war on Israel, when mere talk of making war so sickens them with fear of the consequences that they rise up to oppose whoever makes the suggestion, then they will want peace, and peace can be brought about. Until then, they will continue to want war. That is where the initiative lies, and until it shifts there will never be peace.

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  1. 8 Responses to “Is this what you would call " a genocide"?”

  2. By Unforsakenme on Mar 10, 2010 | Reply

    I don’t feel like going back and copying and pasting my previous answer.

    Moses: I feel your pain, I had my last 4 innocent questions deleted all in a row. Please tell your fellow pals to take it easy on the report button too.
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  3. By Ivri_Anokhi on Mar 10, 2010 | Reply

    No act by Israel will have the slightest effect of moving peace forward.

    People who try to force a peace on the region act in ignorance of one thing: there is nothing Israel can do to bring about peace. No act by Israel will have the slightest effect of moving peace forward.

    All the initiative belongs to the Muslims who want to destroy Israel and commit genocide on its Jewish population. Israel withdrawals from Lebanon and Gaza just brought more attacks on Israel. When Israel has proposed negotiations the Arabs rejected them. Only when Sadat (and later Hussein) took the initiative to make peace was peace made, then Sadat was murdered for it.

    All the pleadings of Israelis and Americans could not bring Arafat to agree to peace, or live up to any agreement he made. Thus the world will have to wait until the Muslims decide to make peace for another such peace to be made. It will wait a long time.

    When the Palestinian Arabs are sick of being killed when they make war on Israel, when mere talk of making war so sickens them with fear of the consequences that they rise up to oppose whoever makes the suggestion, then they will want peace, and peace can be brought about. Until then, they will continue to want war. That is where the initiative lies, and until it shifts there will never be peace.

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  4. By Nada (Ramadan Kareem) on Mar 10, 2010 | Reply

    Approximately 1.5 million Palestinian civilians have died since 1948. Aproximately 2000 civilian Palestinians are killed each year. If you are Jewish and you shoot an 8-year-old Palestinian girl in cold blood,you will have your weapons license revoked for three months and pay a fine equivalent to 50-100 dollars U.S.
    I call that genocide.
    References :
    Pappe,Itan. "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" (Oxford,2003).
    Amnesty Internation Annual Report (years 2000-2007).
    Hass,Amira. "Drinking the Waters at Gaza" (1996).

    (Thanks Zeno)

  5. By Incognito on Mar 10, 2010 | Reply

    Do you have dementia? You asked this question already. So 18000 is nothing to you people? Does it have to be 6,000,000 people for it to be a genocide? If someone killed your immediate family, are you trying to say that it will not be anything important unless your whole extended family was killed too? Anyway, from the time so called Israel claimed itself as a nation until now, over 1,000,000 Palestinians have been killed. I don’t think that includes the many more Palestinians that went missing. It is a genocide. Just in case if you don’t know what it means:
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/genocide

    It is absolutely a genocide, even if you deny it.
    References :
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/genocide

  6. By Saecula Saeculorum on Mar 10, 2010 | Reply

    I fell you, but don’t quote millions and not call it genocide. I know it is defense because I know how the Hamas uses civilians as human shields and then when their own traps kills the civilians, they still count them as IDFs fault. Oh, and don’t expect you question to last for long. They will probably erase it soon. Kudos for lasting this long.
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  7. By Lisa on Mar 10, 2010 | Reply

    It’s not genocide when it is in self defense. If the Palestinian terrorists don’t want innocent people to die, stop hiding in their homes and being cowards. Actually come out and fight where you won’t put your people in harms way. If any genocide on the Palestinians is occurring, it would be due to the terrorist leaders of Hamas who put this tragedy on their own people. They don’t care that they die, in fact, it helps them gain support when they throw the sympathy card. But when they continue to strap bombs on their own children and send them into busy Israeli bus stations, pizzerias, restaurants, malls, and even wedding celebrations, then they can take the blame for the deaths of the Palestinians, NOT the Israelis who are re-acting and defending their own people – and numbers has nothing to do with it. It is not a systematic elimination of a group of people. But many people will try to argue it that way to further their twisted logic and further their hate and intolerance of having Jews in a predominantly Arab region of the world. The Quaran specifically states that to be a true person of Islamic faith, you should either convert or kill all infidels. Hmmmmm. Now who’s guilty of systematically trying to eliminate a group of people? I think the answer should be clear to everyone.
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  8. By Becki on Mar 10, 2010 | Reply

    Only 18000 in 60 years? 300 a year?
    And all this fuss over this ridiculous number?
    In one average European city, three times more people die every year in traffic accidents.

    Sometimes Arabs are really pathetic.
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  9. By Michelangelo on Mar 10, 2010 | Reply

    -According to B’Tselem, and the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs :
    In the past 9 years Israel managed to kill 6,348 Palestinian. That means 700 Palestinian per yer, 60 Palestinian per month, 2 Palestinian killed every day! If that number is not enough for you then you should join the Nazi party.

    There is no data for Palestinian death toll before 2000. No one knows the real number but we do know that many Palestinians payed their lives when they were ethnically cleansed from their villages and cities!

    Palestinians were subjected to other terms of genocide during the 61 year of terrorist Israeli rule beside the daily killing. Such as:

    1-Ethnic cleansing and history erasure.

    2-More than 11 000 Palestinians, including hundreds of women and children are being held in Israeli prisons.

    3- Israel Demolished 18,147 Palestinian Homes since 1967

    4- Turning Palestinian lands into check point cells. In every street in West Bank there is at least one check point. Even if Palestinians were allowed to pass by they have to wait for hours and in a very long line of people.
    http://www.jatonyc.org/checkpoint.html

    5-Building a racist seperation wall that ruined the lives of thousands of Palestinians who have experienced the loss of land, water, and resources which provide their sustenance as well as the destruction of community and personal property. Palestinian villages and towns near the Wall have become isolated ghettos where movement in and out is limited, if not impossible, thus severing travel for work, health, education, and visits to friends and family. For instance, in the 18 communities surrounded into an enclave in the Tulkarem district the inability to travel due to the Wall and Israeli military “closures” has brought the unemployment rate up from 18% in 2000 to an estimated 78% in the spring of 2003. In Qalqiliya, where the Wall hermitically seals the city with one Israeli military controlled checkpoint, nearly 10% of the 42,000 residents have been forced to leave their homes due to the city’s imprisonment, closure of the market, and inability to find work.
    See for more details:
    http://stopthewall.org/news/faqs.shtml

    6- Putting Gaza city under siege for over 2 years where hundreds of Palestinian died due to lack of medicine and food. 1.5 milion Palesinian lives are directly effected by this inhuman siege. This is called collective punishment of the Palestinians in Gaza.

    7-Land theft through creating hundrends of settlements in the middle of Palestinian lands.
    http://pakalert.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/israeli-settlement-map.jpg

    I can really go on forever. That is genocide by all means and has to stop now!
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